Charli XCX‘s career highlight was coming on our podcast back in 2018, for what turned out to be a rushed conversation about art school, living in LA, writing songs for Blondie and seeing songs as colours. With Charli’s career still doing reasonably well due to the release of this year’s album, Brat, on this week’s podcast we revisit that conversation to see if it was as bad as I thought it was at the time, consider what it tells us about the rise of Charli, and ask what’s next for the undisputed queen of alt. pop.

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