For this week’s episode of our interview podcast I met Billy Corgan in a hotel in Chelsea, London – the kind of place you get to stay in when you’ve sold 30 million records as the singer of The Smashing Pumpkins.

We sat downstairs in the empty club to talk about his second solo album, ‘Ogilala’, and how he recorded it with Rick Rubin at Shangri La – a man and a place that I’ve become a little obsessed with hearing about.

We also took on classic movies, Stanley Kubrick, electronic music, Neil Young and podcasts.

Check it out below or by searching your podcast app for Loud And Quiet presents Midnight Chats. There’s 35 in total now – some are pretty fine.