Are those things not, I ask, diametric opposites? The frivolity of fashion alongside radical open heartedness seems like maybe a confused message?
“Ewww!” Chase screws up her face. “I hate that. I absolutely despise that idea completely. Frivolous? It’s freeing!”
“Right,” Veronika agrees, “I feel like dressing up is about owning your body, and embracing how you’re feeling any given day. Clothes and music, creativity in general, is a great outlet on developing yourself throughout your whole life.”
Making and sharing clothes, collaborating on films and reels that they share online, Cumgirl8 is a whole process of expression and subversion, made difficult to promote by the fact the group have chosen a name that is deliberately and provocatively porny, meaning they are shadow-banned by radio stations, and rarely see their own name in print without asterisks. “We put little toys in the world, little assets, so people can be like, ‘This is cool, I want to hang out with this.’ I think that’s…what we do.”
“These are good questions,” Chase tells me.
Veronika nods. “We’re here for questions. We have the answers to everything, which is nothing. There are no answers. But we’re taking questions.”
The next day, I receive an email:
“The answer to your question about the point where ‘sexploration’ and our politics meet each other: is sincerity.
You mentioned All About Love by bell hooks, and yes absolutely radical love is at the front of how we operate. I think some of the things we say could be confused with being hyper-positive, but it’s not. It’s nearly the opposite. It’s honest and uncomfortable. We definitely operate in a space of discomfort and challenge people. Especially other women, ironically. And we challenge ourselves… to be loud and hot is not for the weak. Still yet we’re white and femme. Look at the suicide rate of trans youth, trans black youth… we’re just touching the surface of powerful work. And we honour it deeply. We try to move the needle as much as we can. Not as thorough as bell hooks though. We make squirt memes.”
Photography by Emmie America